The westboro baptist is group of people who claim to be Christian that shows all their hate that they have for homosexuals and for jews, Catholics, pretty much anyone who does not share their viewpoint.
The group is not christian but a cult who using the bible as a cover up tool for their hareful actions against others. The group show the basic signs of the cult by not letting it members have a mind of their own and people not allowing to have disagreement without the fear of being kick out out of the church or even their own family, scripture can only be understand through the leader of the church or so called church means. Those are the basic signs of a cult but now lets go with what they teach or say.
One of their songs is God hates the world and all her children and everyone going to burn etc.. First off this go against what they believe because they say they will be saved at the same time everyone will burn which those shows they cannot have a stable belief system.
They go around and say God hates homosexuals jews etc... and say they will burn in hell at the same time they say their message is message of repentence, but how can you expect someone to repent at the same time telling them there no hope for you? they cannot and will not and that what satan wants people to think NOT GOD.
What does the new testament have to say on matter of the wicked?
Luke 6:35 (King James Version)
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your reward shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
Get that we are to lend a helping hand and to love our enemies and just how God is kind to evil people we should also be. The Thing is this group does not love homosexuals and certain other sects of Christianity and other races of people, they show pretty clear they not only hate sin but also the person. They do not have the mind of Christ at all and never will unless THEY REPENT of their self-righteous.
When Jesus walk the earth he held sinners as his company and sat down with them etc... also healed the lame blind death raise the dead etc... and these were sinners also as the scripture says we all had sinned and came short of the glory of God but even thou the people jesus was with were sinners jesus still had companion on Them.
The religious leaders of the day criticize jesus for having sinners as His company and you can bet Jesus did not hold signs saying God hates you but taught that Our God is God of love and at the same time not compromising the issue of repentance and faith etc.. no because jesus did that all in a loving way.
I wonder if put a homosexual or jew and a catholic in the westboro church would they get a warm greeting from the westboro church? I do not think so I mean they have signs like pray for more deal soldiers which means they Actually want people to go to hell and not heaven which again is characteristic of satan not God. jesus would be calling this group vipers that shut up the kingdom of God.
I remember watching a clip on youtube that had an elderly women son that died in the war and a British guy has an interview with 3 of their members and they were laughing and smiley because he was dead! does this sound Christ like and what does scripture say?
Ezekiel 18:32
For I take no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Sovereign LORD. Repent and live!
but with all westboro church laughing and smiley, giving praise to God with ever disaster that comes on mankind or death, they sure do take pleasure.
The group uses their free right of speech which and uses there right to praise God in the way they like and at the same time hate soldiers that die every day given them that right! what does that sounds like to you? They hold down normals jobs in which if they have a normal job pay taxes and support the very government they hate!
If Jesus was here he would condemn Them for their hate and NOT reaching out to others in Love for they can have life abundance with the Lord.
Where is the gospel in their hate? where is the promise of
ohn 10:10 (King James Version)
10The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
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westboro baptist church has no problem judging others and now it time for theirs and what scriptrue says.
Matthew 7:19 (New International Version, ©2010)
19 Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire.
The Spirit of hatred can never bear good fruits for hating your enemies bears bad fruit.
Update to add to this article I thought would be good as I psoted this on face book is
also would add The fact that homosexuality is sin like any other sin as adultery anger hatred stealing etc... and if God did hate the person because of their sin then really God hated ALL of us because no one is born a christian and wants... us to die because as they say God is your enemy but i do not believe that.
The scriptures say The wagers of sin is death but The gift of life is Jesus Christ.
The Thing is this group needs before going picketing others sins need to look in themself am I so perfect that I make self out to be do I not also sin at times? do I need to repent of my self-righteousness attitude?
James 3:8 (New International Version, ©2010)
8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison.
James is pretty Clear it is impossible to be perfect in this life time and i think the west boro needs to look into there self before pointing others sins out.
Jesus said before going to pick the saw dust out of someone eye take out the plank that is in yours.
If the westboro church thinks homosexuals should die because of their sin or be executed then they need to be also excuted They to are not without sin and DOES NOT MATTER WHAT SIN YOUR GUILTY OF BECAUSE ALL SIN LEADS TO SPIRITUAL DEATH.
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also I was reading interview where bible prophecy Ithink was the named of the person who was interviewing Shirley one of the members of westboro and she rejected or question The idea that there are christians all over the world not just them but are really not christians at all that die for their faith! They think the whole world is doom and only people in there sect is saved! How self righteous can a person get! She thinks when someone says I know of christian that was killed or torture for not rejecting Christ she would reponed like How do know? I mean hello! The persons knows the christians but no she thinks only the group that she is in are really christians.
ReplyDeletemaybe westboro forgot that Christianity Began in the middle east and it would be common to find christians that would die for their faith there.
God does not hate any sinner. God will not throw any sinner into a hell fire no matter the sin. I prove this to the world by the word of God at http://minigoodtale.wordpress.com/2011/01/14/no-hell-fire-no-second-death/ How you treat any sinner (child of God) is how you are treating God, he made them.
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ReplyDeleteVal I would re-think the verses you are using even satan is against God but yet he cannot deny Jesus is Lord The people that deny jesus in this life will be force to confess Jesus is lord everyone will confess that he is Lord but everyone will not be saved. The scriptures says not all who call me Lord will enter Heaven. Matthew 7:21 (New International Version, ©2010) True and False Disciples 21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Also there is The Great white throne judgement and the seat of christ judgement. there are two different judgments for saved and not in scripture.
ReplyDeleteRevelation 20 11 Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. The earth and the heavens fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. 12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. 13 The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to what they had done. 14 Then death and Hades were thrown into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. 15 Anyone whose name was not found written in the book of life was thrown into the lake of fire. If hell was just for satan then it would not make sense to say if anyone name was not found will be thrown into the lake of fire. The Thing is you reject the lake of fire or second death when scriptures even uses them by name and the great white throne judgment is for non-believers http://www.gotquestions.org/great-white-throne-judgment.html
The seat of Christ is different story 2 Corinthians 5:10 (King James Version) 10For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. If you keep this in context it is referring to those who are in the body which means saved and do not have a chance to be cast into the lake of fire as revelation The great white throne judgment holds do. if all would be saved there be no need for different judgments one for the chance to be throne into the lake of fire and the other only to be judge what you had done into the body of Christ to receive your rewards.
some sites dealing with more with the doctrine all will be saved.
http://www.christiananswers.net/q-eden/edn-r002.html
http://carm.org/1-tim-24-2-pet-39-and-universalism
http://www.bibleanswerstand.org/universal.htm
http://ichthys.com/mail-Against-Universalism-I.htm
http://ichthys.com/mail-Against-Universalism-II.htm
i also know very well that -Universalism have two views about hell one is not real that an analogy of scriptrue but scriptures presents it in a very real way or the soul just dies like how a paper is born into the fire which both views is already commented on in the sites I listed.
ReplyDeleteI bet also God wants all of us not to sin but God is not going to make it not compatible for us to do so.
ReplyDeletenon-compatible sorry
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