Thursday, July 26, 2012

Not under The law

In The movement of The HRM you probably seen this as a response, we are not under the law in the means for Justification but we do have to keep it if we love God etc........ This is what I going to tackle and see if scripture really limited  The Law just being not for justification in the means One is just not saved by it.

The First Chapter that comes to mind is gal chapter 2 and these verses.

Galatians 2:11-14

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
11 And when Peter came to Antioch, to the face I stood up against him, because he was blameworthy,
12 for before the coming of certain from James, with the nations he was eating, and when they came, he was withdrawing and separating himself, fearing those of the circumcision,
13 and dissemble with him also did the other Jews, so that also Barnabas was carried away by their dissimulation.
14 But when I saw that they are not walking uprightly to the truth of the good news, I said to Peter before all, `If thou, being a Jew, in the manner of the nations dost live, and not in the manner of the Jews, how the nations dost thou compel to Judaize?


Now if you read The whole chapter Paul is really against Gentiles keeping The law for them order to be saved, that they had to keep The Law, The HRM would not disagree with this statement but at the same time they say well if your really saved then you will keep Torah, if you do not, then your not because you do not love God.

I find this really talking out of both sides of there mouth, saying one thing but the other going right against it! If we have to keep The Law in order to keep our salvation then that not different then saying One salvation is justify  by it and they will say not keeping it is backsliding and losing your salvation, sinning willing.

When we read these verses from 2:11-14 It very Clear Peter was not keeping Kosher, The  verses say plainly he was LIVING The same LIFESTYLE of   other NATIONS do! In regard to  food that is.

Now we see The Law meaning  Not for Justification is no different then saying  if you really Love God then you will keep   it  or your not saved because I'm pretty sure peter would of lost his salvation! according to HRM thought or theology to go against Torah is to show your fruit is rotten and thou not good fruit and not saved your back slider etc........


We do not need to keep Torah in order to be saved and we do not need to keep it in order for our salvation with it fruits to be good.
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Lets look at another verse to comment on

matthew 5:17-19


 Before I begin I cover this one already with an article  but I want to use this verse for another biblical understanding.

http://omegandalpha.blogspot.com/2012/07/matthew-517-19-and-hebrew-roots.html

Matthew 5:17-19

King James Version (KJV)
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Jesus says The law  will not make until it is fulfilled and some other verses as well.........

Luke 24:27

King James Version (KJV)
27 And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself.luke 24:44-47 And he said unto them, These are the words which I spake unto you, while I was yet with you, that **all** things must be fulfilled, which were written in the law of Moses, and in the prophets, and in the psalms, concerning me

Ephesians 2:14-15

Young's Literal Translation (YLT)
14 for he is our peace, who did make both one, and the middle wall of the enclosure did break down,
15 the enmity in his flesh, the law of the commands in ordinances having done away, that the two he might create in himself into one new man, making peace,

Lets take to Note verse luke 24:27 according to Jesus everything that was written about him was fulfilled  and verse eph 2:14-15 mention The commands of The Law it self being put away or done away in His flesh.

The law was
perpetual  in The original design of it, It would be up and abiding until The resurrection and after that, The letter was no more in the sense obsolete for Believers that Believe and his death and resurrection.

Lets look at romans 7:2-6

 

Romans 7:2-6

King James Version (KJV)
For the woman which hath an husband is bound by the law to her husband so long as he liveth; but if the husband be dead, she is loosed from the law of her husband.
So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
Wherefore, my brethren, ye also are become dead to the law by the body of Christ; that ye should be married to another, even to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
For when we were in the flesh, the motions of sins, which were by the law, did work in our members to bring forth fruit unto death.
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.

The same way If a women is married and her husband died she is release from that Law no longer abiding to her and  aloud to marry again, Paul gives us that same example of this by giving us The perfect example in the Death and resurrection  The Law is no longer abiding on us to keep that we discharged from it.
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sources

http://www.ukapologetics.net/10/pleroo.htm   
The Greek term for “abolished” is katargeo, literally suggesting the idea of reducing something to a state of inactivity. howing that just as a wife is “discharged” from the law of her husband when he dies, even so, through the death of the body of Christ, men were “discharged” from the obligations of the Mosaic law.








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