Monday, November 25, 2013

matthew 5:17-19 another post about it

Time for Myth 2!

Matthew 5:17-19! I will be talking about The proof text for this passage that the Hrm use.

Let me quote the passage first 

The Fulfillment of the Law

17 “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18 For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19 Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

Let me deal with the very first thing that the HRM would say according to this passage ok?

They would say Look heaven and earth is still here! so is The law then? it needs to pass away, only then the law shall pass etc....

First How does one draw such conclusions? did not Jesus say that I came to fulfilled them in the sense He is the fulfillment of these prophecies? did Not Jesus say then The law shall pass when it is fulfilled?

The point is He came to fulfill them, so by that logic this literal Heaven and earth shall already pass in the HRM logic.

What is The cause for the law being done away with? Not that heaven and earth need to pass away but The Lord fulfilling The Law!

The context of passing away is it being fulfilled.

so The question is what is Jesus meaning by heaven and earth? well I think a passage in luke gives us good context for matthew 5:17-19

17 It is easier for heaven and earth to disappear than for the least stroke of a pen to drop out of the Law. luke 16:17 I would say since Jesus said He came to fulfilled The law, then it shall pass according to his word, Jesus is using the same context of Luke, The only way for The law to not be fulfilled, is that heaven and earth needs to pass away first.
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Let me deal with also " everything" they would say well not everything is fulfilled, The second coming, The end times etc.... But they fail to understand everything is everything that pointed to what He Must do at his first coming, luke 24:44.

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Now for The last part, they would often accuse us of teaching to keep some commands but not all, such then we shall be the lesser in the kingdom of God but also at the same time, they to need to t each we are under some laws, Not every jot and tittle and they would agree that is still in place but they dont keep it!

Of course the context this passage is dealing with the Old covenant, those under It and teaching not to keep the fullest extent of God word, not Under The new covenant where Love is The law of the heart to show others and that is what fulfills The Law romans 13:8-13

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